351w build for torque Home; The It worked great and sounded good; I also had highway gears and used a 570 Holley Street Avenger. 1966 Coupe build for SCCA Autocross 347 V8 - Tremec TKO My 351W is essentially the same as yours. the single plane victor carb mount plenum is already detached from the lifter valley seal. This is a kit designed for high revs, which calls for deep breathing heads and a single-plane intake. Is has a 351w on it and im planning on tearing the motor down and rebuilding it however im not too After reading about how the 400 engine was a stroked 351W, to improve low-end torque, and how the cylinder heads were derived from the excellent flowing 351W heads, I As far as the pistons go, the cast pistons will be okay for your build; Hypers are better and forged are the best. Dont get me wrong, the 351w end result is runing Okay so I decided to yank the old 289 out of my 68 Mustang, and got a hold of a ’84 351W motor and looking to build it up to a 408 Stroker. If you are going EFI, with a pre-97 truck 351w, I believe they use the truck manifold which is a Holley/Saleen/Vortech lower. if you are not dead set of the edelbrock top end kit, a better option would be piece together your own top end starting with the heads. 460 combo: + All Stock internals, but freshened up a bit Hi, Sandyrun! I found a build of a Ford Racing 392 stroker crate motor that used a cam having specs similar to what you originally posted. 8/351 for low RPM torque and mileage - Hi all. my budget is around I $3000. 8/351W) - Budget build 351w ?'s - I have a 1989 f150 with a 351w, completely stock, and in serious need of exhuast. X2 - Seriously. Jump to Latest So I tried being a bit more reasonable and decided that torque is probably gonna be best for a 4,600lbs truck. Jump to Latest 351W (F4TE OEM roller block) core I'm happy with the XE cam in my 351W, it runs well and sounds nice. These cams are DONE by 4000, but build alot of cylinder pressure down low, and ALOT of lowend torque. I have the Comp Cam XE262H cam already for it, Kampr is correct. This build sounds an awful lot like mine, stock long block with the stock heads rebuilt and set up with The block he has is 96 351w roller block , GT40P heads. Ford 351 Windsor History and Background. The truck looks great and runs pretty well for the most part. 8L's yet, but for brute low end torque the stock intake A 351 W with a 400M crank and the appropriate rods and pistons will give you 427 cu". Undefined terms there are, "most stock looking", "decent HP", "torque gain" and "reasonable investment". This because many say they did a decent job for low end torque and that the 2150 is a good 2V carb. that's a whole different game then, and if you want more torque i have no idea why you'd downgrade to a 302 Performance & General Engine Building - 351W -> 393W. 3 swap because diesels are pretty popular around here and they are probably the best diesel motor put in any Ford. Speed in a boat requires a hull designed for itusually that means low wetted surface and pad for the hull to ride on. I have access to a freshly machined set of Iron My current Speed Density (SD) 1994 F4TE 351w roller build for torque, built for a single cab 2wd short box: Engine at 340,000 kms, regular oil changes, never been rebuilt, The message here is lots of torque from a 351W based engine. but much better overall performance. That's a big difference when you jump on it. You're never going to build a small block that makes 400ft/lbs at 2000rpms. 6 Rockers + Gears YTB + C-6 Trans + Possible Nitrous (250) Overall a simple build. Building a 351w for an 87 Bronco restoration and wanted to see what kind of HP/torque I might expect. that's a whole different game then, and if you want more torque i have no idea why you'd downgrade to a 302 Since where i live are just a few people who knows how to build powerful engines, this is the best source for 351W's mods that i could find. The only heads worth changing from a 351W are '69 or '70 to gain a bit of compression. I'm actually about to begin a 351W build-up and this is my plan. Can anyone tell me what are the recommended torque specs for the flex plate bolts for 69 351w engine? Also need torque specs for the 3 crankshaft bolts on the same engine. 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 1995 F150 Modify for Low-End Torque? - Hi, I've been trolling this forum for a few weeks and finally decided it was time to create an account. You really don't need a ton of torque for what you want to do, since you'll be spending most of your time in the upper RPM range. I’m here in search of HONEST and My question is whether I should build a 351 or a 302. so i would like to know the oil clearances of the 351w. 351' heads around '77 on these motors, switching to the lo-po 302 heads with their 351w stroker build. heads. 8/351W) - which intake will make the most torque on a 351W - My engine has been a slow build but now that I finally have my Bronco, 1966, I am Stay with a small cam. This change added almost 50 cubic inches and provided a nice bump in torque. Has any body on this site ever build a efi 351w to put out 400 hp, if so how did you do it. The ford e4od is the major To this setup I am planning on installing a 408 stroker built for low end torque with good parts, but with everything in balance with each other. Torque the. " Adding a stroker kit is a popular modification to boost engine displacement. Building more torque down low and maintaining good power across the tach would have probably resulted in less e. 351W Motor Build. 600 inches because it helps torque. 1969 351w build. toddturbo · Registered. Here's what I'm running: I haven't messed with any EFI 5. With GT-40X heads, it made 452 hp & 455 lbs-ft of torque; with a swap to AFR 185 cc heads, hp jumped to 517 @ 5800 & torque went to 493 @ 4600 -- all with a 9. 351w engine build advice. 5 to 1 use cam Build is: Stock, roller 351w short block. I 351w stroker build. This 425-Cube 351 Makes 575 LB-FT And 607 HP On Pump Gas-Plenty To Break A Whole Bunch Of Drivetrain Stuff If You're Not Careful! It worked great and sounded good; I also had highway gears and used a 570 Holley Street Avenger. This cam in a 351w would have very nice low end torque and plenty of RPMs as well. If the cylinder heads are on the car. I'm new to engine building, so I figured it best to ask for help, I'm looking to build a 351 Windsor with 500 351 Windsor - High-Torque Windsor. it's a volvo penta "aq240" , based on a 351, stock d80 heads CR 8:1 , 4v intake, holley 4160 , and 230hp i want to get litle more hp now when i have put the engine apart. Am aware the 351W firing order changes to match the cam. I'm really after a stump puller, lots of torque from idle, a strong midrange is OK, but not at the expense of off idle torque. Windsor combo: + Eagle 427 stroker kit + Cam yet to be determind - Roller + Holley 800 CFM + TFS Track Heat Heads + TFS 1. Flat top, 4-relief pistons in 66cc heads give more than that in a 351W. Your info of engine parts is poor, HEAD BOLT TORQUE: Apply moly-oil mixture to washers, threads, and area around head bolt to prevent galling and improper torque readings. Joined Jun 22, 2009 · 4,073 Posts #41 · Jun 18, 2020 Keep it simple 500HP 351W Build. Jump to Latest So build more torque, or make torque at a higher RPM, or both. 48. Don't be afraid of compression 11:1 (radiusing all sharp edges in the combustion space), don't both with little "Who would make the most stock looking top end kit for decent HP and torque gain at a reasonable investment for this type of set up? ". Bolt back reverse the direction of your wrench, turn the engine the and remove the clothes line. I think I would have had an easier time all along if I'd started with a 5. I'm a relatively new member here, and relatively new to performance building too. If you have been running the standard 302 I’m currently working on a Ford 351 Windsor engine build and I’m looking for advice on the best aftermarket cylinder heads. I am looking to achieve at least 300 crank hp. Stock (rebuilt) bottom end, AFR 185's, Weiand Stealth, BG 650 w/ mechanical secondaries and no choke, a Cheaper to build a 351W. I'm looking for advice and information about the well-known build that runs fine and can output as close as possible to 600hp from 351W. First of all I want to know if there is any way to get gt40p heads on the 351 thats going in my 87 fox. Had my machine shop source most of the parts - I trust him. Q's: Do I advance/retard cam timing & by how much? 2. In 1982 my 70 stang was powered by a 351C 4v quench chamber motor,but back then Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. But there is just no comparison to the very low rpm torque you will get with even a simple 351w build. im not sure what casting my 351W Build Help. Ang3lgarcia; Jan 19, 2022; 1979 - Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. I’m currently working on a Ford 351 Windsor engine build and I’m looking for advice on the best aftermarket cylinder heads. If you’re If you're going to build (or rebuild) an engine for you're truck. Sold the Bronco to Bron_17113 (Don) Off to the U. I 351w build Why the low torque? I thought with my relatively low advertised duration that torque would be at least higher than HP. 351W or 390 build up. I personally went with Comp Cam on my latest build and used their 268XE camshaft in conjunction with a Hughes 2500 RPM converter. 5 dual exhaust Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. I hope to source the rest of the injection stuff soon and get it started up. BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK INFORMATION 2. I also would like a suggestions as far as cam and intake goes. 351w Build - stroker or non stroker? Thread starter seanwanlass; Start date Jan 26, 2024; seanwanlass New Member. I'm new to engine building, so I figured it best to ask for help, I'm looking to build a 351 Windsor with 500 How to Build a 500 Horsepower Ford 351 Cleveland Engine- Covers Engine Building and Performance Updgrades to the 351C, 351M, 400M Ford Cleveland Engine. I know there is an engine guru out there that knows how to build up a 351W. Awesome engine. 020" in hole X2 - Seriously. C. It is built for a race-car though. The small bore/long stroke 393will make lots of torque. Advice on building 351w for torque. 2015 issue, in fact—we documented the build of a pretty potent 351W build that ended up making 505 hp with the stock crankshaft and connecting Any time you improve the power output of your test motor by over 150 hp, you know you’ve done something right. I am going through the 351 and wanting to build a torque engine. It has a This is more of a curiosity question than if it were to really happen but what is the AVERAGE cost to build a 351W for my 1965 mustang that would quite differently than I do. for 7/16” bolts or studs (289 or 302) or 100 ft/lbs. Anyone know what the torque specs are for the bolts holding the motor mounts to the block of a 351w? -Marc '65 Mustang Fastback | 351w build . Since I use the engine for mudding and I own 2 other engines that would be great platforms for my upgrade. I picked up an August 95' built 351W as the base engine. The quick rebuild seems like the way to go. 030-over 351W, which I think is very doable. It will have a longer stroke (for torque), Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. In the November 06 issue of Car Craft they outline what you need to get 500 Since where i live are just a few people who knows how to build powerful engines, this is the best source for 351W's mods that i could find. " Possibly the same thing with adding a X stroker crank and We required full emissions compliance, a factory-quality idle, and the inclusion of the Ford EEC-IV factory fuel-injection system to produce at least 400 hp and 400 lb-ft of For Higher Power You Need A High Performance Blocks. In the late sixties, Ford developed the 351W (Windsor) as a stroked engine from the 302. The 351W produces more low end I'm running a mildly built 351w in my '79 and it provides amazing low end torque, and roughly 300hp/400lb-ft. In stock trim, the fuel-injected, junkyard 351W produced Seen several 351W builds, but nothing for a truck. I just picked up a 351W out of an early 90s F-150. 020" in hole Thanks for the torque specs. The idea for this engine is that it has a Ford Small-Block Rebuild: Torque Specs, Sequences, and Alignment - Covers 221, 260, 289, 302, Boss 302, 351W, 351C, 351M, and 400M Small Block Ford Engines. If your build prioritizes handling, high-revving performance, and lightweight agility, the the weiand stealth intake builds power in the idle-7,000 rpm range. The 351W is now the best choice for all around power and torque for the money spent. I'd probably opt for the shorter stroke 331 and build it for bulletproof high rpm operation. i have an 84 250, 351w, 4 speed. T. You are on Not that long ago—in Car Craft's Jan. Jump to Latest The 69 & 70 MOY 351W's had higher stock compression than the later years, and slightly larger valves. I want to rebuild it with an emphasis on low-RPM torque and fuel economy and put it I've got a late model low mileage 351 and I want to make as much torque as possible with a max rpm of about 5200-5500. but you lose low end torque In my opinion, going with the edelbrock performer rpm air gap is the way to go on the dual plane. Magical question it is. How to Max Performance Ford V-8s on a Budget Written by George Reid ISBN: 1-884089-55-0 Many examples of engine builds and components used Comp Ultra Pro Roller Rockers, nice but expensive. 5k pretty easily Motor Mount Torque Specs, 351W. Goal is nothing wild, reliable, good torque for wheeling, and decent power for fun. It has speed density Run in normally aspirated trim, the 351W produced 420 hp at 6,100 rpm and 429 lb-ft of torque at 4,300 rpm. 043 quench area; acceptable. 5:1 compression comp cams extreme energy 262 flat tappet roller rockers stock gt-40p heads with 1. 5 rear, 4:10, Resurrection in process. My 351 build with Starting at 7 psi, the turbo 351W produced 631 hp and 608 lb-ft of torque, while stepping up to 10. fans,Headers, & home made cold air box, this combo specs out at 425fly wheel power, I forget the torque #s but will look mild 351w build. S. 020. I still haven't For a 400 hp FE, the difference between a Performer and an RPM is about 20 hp at the peaks and equal peak torque. I'll get a cam recommendation from Comp because I'll be running a v6 torque converter in my 4r70w and don't know my head flow numbers yet. Jump to Latest I'm from Sweden and i'm rebuilding my 351w for my daycruiser. I'm hoping you guys can help me with my motor. 6 rockers,Edelbrock Pentium&Manifold w/mass air change over,MSD=6 & MSD Distributor,elect. Divide that into thirds, or 37 ft-lb of torque per sequence. Anyone know what the torque specs are for the bolts holding the motor mounts to the block of a 351w? -Marc '65 Mustang Fastback | 434W Stroker | Undergoing Body Work My 65 Mustang Build Site. Keep in mind that edelbrock got over 400 ft-lbs with their rpm I was talking to Jays Machine shop in Everret about a 351w build and he was saying that the 351w is already has a bulletproof bottom end, no need to make it any stronger. make an excellent starting point for any performance Im looking into a 408 stroker build and i got quite a handful of questions, big torque comes from big engines like a 460 etc. For me, on the street only, 6K is rare, 5. 1966 Mustang 351w with Dart Pro1 knock offs, T5Z, Running Holley HP EFI management, sans turbos, the 351 Windsor dyno’d at 409 horsepower and about 405 pound-feet of torque. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. 60 valves otherwise stock edelbrock rpm intake demon 750 1 5/8" long tube headers msd 351w build setup. im brand new to this forum, and have done some searching. 587 lift, 108 degrees and for main studs you need to hone the main bores, Dave Flanders wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:19 pm I have a later model 351W truck (roller cam) motor in my tow vehicle and am looking to pump up the low end torque and the Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. Converters respond to torque, not HP. I'm guessing it makes around 310 hp. The first iteration of the 351 V8 dates to 1968, when Ford modified the deck height of the 302 Windsor. 351w build looking for help. unfortunately it is not Each set-up has actual dyno numbers so you can follow what components used and how much horsepower gained and torque for each component installed. I got away with that with the 289 because the engine didn't build the torque at a low rpm, though met and exceeded the HP levels due to the combination of torque *and* rpm, having easily 1000rpm on the larger Don't forget to put some Anti-sieze on the threads, and, if you can get the wrench in there, torque the plugs. r/EngineBuilding A chip A close button A chip A close button Total torque for 351C heads is 110 ft-lb. 9 in and Dana 44 3. They are a significant improvement over stock. The stock crank, rods, I'm not sure what your definition of max is. Hey all, I'm looking for some guidance here. Any suggestions on how to raise torque without torque and hp. Never bothered me an ounce to have a high idle, and a Seen it a hundred times, build for torque and that means cubic inchesand more pitch on the prop to use it. Adding RPM has limits, reliable and drivable suffer. Jump to Latest 400hp out of a pump gas, driveable 351W is cake IMO. Windsor Power: How To Build A High-Horsepower 351W Ford On A Budget! Jim Grubbs Motorsports performed all the machine work on our 351W. The goal would be to build a true stump pulling torque MONSTER. 3/1 compression. 1966 Stang Coupe Org. Loyal Car Craft readers should certainly recognize our fancy Ford How do you know your engine is good if it died? If it has aluminum heads and a decent build, rebuild it - if its still good What you want is easily possible but its just a matter of For the 351W build, I'm sticking with the Weiand intake and Edelbrock carb that I have, but I'm considering the following: pulling the heads, re-ringing the pistons & honing the This here is our 408ci Stroker 351W that we just built for our Project 666 Mustang. First, it's main usage will be a street machine and cruiser but I want it to have good low end torque and good throttle response. Goal is a Ford made the 5. It's going into a 4x4 vehicle, so I'm aiming for low end torque. im in college, and looking to add some torque to my truck next summer when ill be working full time again. Torque is a factor of displacment and cylinder pressure. I have a 1995 f250 project truck that I'm Tuning the Ford 351W and best 351W performance parts. Building a roller 351w EFI for my daily driver, and I wanted to get some suggestions about what cam would work best with this combo. with a mild RV cam, intake and headers you shold be able to get an easy 425 HP and somewhere over I think the drivetrain will consist of a ranger torque splitter, np 435, and np 205. 6 cyl. Thanks . 030 hypereutectic flat top Pistons with 4 valve reliefs. 8/351W) - 351w torque cam help! - I have a 1985 351wHO and I am putting in a new cam. It was slow as hell We build up a Ford 351W small block with a factory EFI system. 351W Build. Jump to Latest Long tube headers build low end torque. I build torque converters for a living and can tell you that replacing your converter is a must. 31 rear-ratio, along 350-375hp 351w build advice . 5 psi brought 719 hp and 687 lb-ft of torque. Randy, would you not want to build the torque faster with the lower upper rpm potential of the cast iron gt-40p heads. As you can see from my sigline, I'm targeting 400 bhp with a . 0 head bolts (plus the longer threads) but from an external engine Yes, i contemplated the RPM package, however decided on the performance becouse of the needed low end torque. MSD Dist & box. so you can build a 351w easy to that power. Planning on using hydraulic roller Here is what I am starting with: 1994 351w roller block F4TE, standard bore. I'm thinking of doing a stroker, don't know that I need fantastic heads to build a stump puller. The current engine is a Procharged ,intercooled and fuel injected 408 stroker Windsor which made 780 horses at wheels before it lost traction. 408 Stroker Build & Dyno Test the 351 Windsor offered more low-speed torque than the others, Since the tired, stock 351W makes about 200 rwhp, If you are going for a 302 with a cam and induction that's not too radical, they can be a viable option. I'm putting together a '77 351W with a conventional (non-roller) Edelbrock 2182 cam. That’s pretty stout, but nothing to shout from the mountaintop. 94/1. Let me know what I should do. 1979 Bronco, Ranger, XLT, 4BT, M5OD, Super D60 front, Sterling 10. A close friend of mine has rebuilt our old 72 Pinto Wagon, which had a 11 second street 357 W. for 1/2” bolts or studs (351W) in three or four steps following the factory tightening sequence. 5k fairly common and 2k - 5K the norm. 30 over and reusing stock crank and rods, 10-10. That being said, if you do want to stick Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. 8/351W) - 351w torque build opinions please - I'm debating between a 351w and a 300i6 for my truck. Jump to Latest That is why these little motors can keep up with and beat up on larger torque builds. Used to have The decision between a stroked 302 and a stroked 351 boils down to how you’ll use the car. Save Share Reply Quote Like. 8/351W) - 351W Roller Build Questions - Thought I'd do a build thread of my 5. Disappointing numbers with a carb I have a 351-W in my 55 sunliner and the person who built the motor for me installed the wrong cam so I am going to tear into it but while I am in there I want to build it for economy if possible,its a mid 80s block with junk smog heads and probably dished pistons. Any ideals on how to up the tq? Would gt40 heads help or hurt? I know i can't do a cam because the SD fuel injection. 6 roller rockers to torque number. . 351w Bored to 4. Promaxx Maxx 180cc heads Lunati Voodoo 231/239 @0. Jan 26, 2024 #1 You will never wish you had less torque in a 4500-5500# Bronco (I don't know your setup) but you won't ever regret torque. there has to be a good cheaper way of stroking the motor than buying the expensive stroker kits. I am putting together a 393 w stroker for a friend and lost the specs. (he was comparing it to the 85cc volume they were advertised to come with) Doing the math with, we'll say 69cc chambers 69cc head 9cc gasket 4. It is claimed to have 110k miles. 400 hp right now might suffice, My Motor cost me $1100 to build. A buddy of mine did a stock bore 351w build and he used out of the box afr 185cc heads. 68 Ford Mustang Coupe Come join the discussion about performance, builds, modifications, reviews, engine swaps, classifieds, troubleshooting Here's the spec on my 351w build. The AFR 165s are indeed outstanding for torque. , 850 Mighty Demon Possibility of AOD replacing C5. What RPM A naturally aspirated motor needs a certain amount of rpm to build airflow momentum through the motor, and this usually shows up as a TQ plateau at around But I was searching for feedback on a stroked 351w (427) over a stock 460. 8L, partly to keep track of it and mostly so I can ask smart people dumb questions as they arise. 030 flat top pistons (federal-mogul) 10. I already have 351w in almost good shape from Bronco. Break out your 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Building a 5. For this application I would go with a Comp Cam Today, it’s a popular engine for engine swaps and performance builds. Is a "cheap" build possible? - I'm looking to take my 351W and make it into a 393W without breaking the bank, or Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. 5 stroke but I prefer to go with more torque to maintain a lower RPM with close to 600HP. 8L/351 Ford small block Windsor Starters and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $109 at Summit Racing! » Build logs for you who built it put in a 302 cam and the motor does not run like it should so this winter I would like to put in a good torque cam that is correct for a 351-W,while Help me build a 351w on a budget. Small-Blocks; Big-Blocks; Choosing cam for 351w build. See All 30 Photos Crane has provided John with a 52HR00026 hydraulic roller camshaft. how much power can i make with a ford 351 windsor? can i make a 427 stroker out of a 351w? what is the bore and stroke of a 427 stroker 351? I was going to build it mainly for mid range torque and a hp peak in the low 5's so I wouldn't have to spin it over the low side of 6k. I ended up putting it in my Mustang. I think 52cc chambers. 8 Cylinder Engines - 351W Build for daily driver/towing - I have a 1995 f150 4x4 xlt single cab long bed dual tank E4OD truck with a stock 351w and this engine is tired, I need some ideas on what to do with the block and or hp/torque goals that would be We feature a lot of engine builds in Modified Mustangs & Fords and they invariably find themselves resting between the fender aprons of this or that Building a Big Torque 408ci Windsor Engine. They ended up . I'd be surprised if this thing ever What cam for 408W low RPM torque build? Tags 408w camshaft recommendation carburetor engine build x303 heads. Long tubes are better for bottom end torque than shorty headers, and any header is way better than stock manifolds. M. Here, Todd Roselund torque-plate hones the block. a Comp Cams XE268 will make better hp and torque with that combo. in the copmcams book in the back section there is a custom solid lifter profile. You may even be able to get by with them on a mild 351W, (especially if you are looking for more low end torque), but there are probably better ways to go for that and IMO that's about the point where these heads are stretched to their limit. In 1982 my 70 stang was powered by a 351C 4v quench chamber motor,but back then it was the ONLY way you were gonna blow away 350 chubies. I have an '84 351w core I recently picked up for cheap from a friend. It goes 12. 016 in the hole. By the way that low rpm torque can translate into better mileage if you can keep your foot out of it. Heads and intake are un touched and cam is every small. That meant we could build mid and high-rpm power with a single plane manifold like Edelbrock's Victor Adding Trick Flow heads, a hydraulic roller camshaft, and Edelbrock manifold to build a 505-hp Ford 351W Windsor engine. Budget is irrelevant Small-Block Ford Build: Choosing Camshafts- Covers 221, 260, 289, 302, Boss 302, 351W, 351C, 351M, and 400M Small Block Ford Engines. Airbur, I've been watching your build pretty closely. This Tech Tip is from the full book: FORD 351 For our 1992 Ford 351W, we chose pt# 2090, that included fully ported, Edelbrock advertised the power output of this combination at 443 hp and 424 lb-ft of torque. Years ago I set about to build a 450 horsepower 4 V. The first is a '69 351W-4v, and the second is also a '69, but it is a 429-4v. I used the HO 351 Block with the D00E Displacement makes torque, and it really doesn’t care whether it gets there with bore or stroke. what is the clearances on the 351w from the books. 1970 XL, 351W originally 2V, now 4V 670 Street Avenger, Edlebrock Performer intake, Comp XE262H, Flowtech Headers. As for the heads on the 347- AFR165's would have been a better choice for your goals. Also- the longer the intake runners the better for torque- so a swap to EFI and the looong runners would also make for fat bottom end torque. Fuel Mileage and Torque were good. I want a real hot cam that builds loads of torque at 2000-4000 rpms. Not trying to make the worlds fastest 351w, not interested in a larger stroke, just want a strong, good paired, efficient set up to hold boost in a stock block. It has speed density fuel injection. 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 351w w/ SD Build Tips - I have a 351w with sd and wanna add some hp but primarily torque, i would like 400+ ft-lbs. Been thinking Skip to main content. He did say he unshrouded the valves, but the 75cc value he gave was for the exhaust port volume. I will be starting my 351w build soon and have a few questions. Later 351w (F4TE Blocks) have the Roller Cams installed from factory. speed pro . t. I used those exact same pistons with factory "football" rods in an undecked '70 block, 4. For example, the cam and intake The 351W is a sturdy block and you can build the block to upwards of 700hp a girdle on the mains is recommended but this engine is one of the best builders you can do, I The flanged hex head is what threw me off on these 351w bolts, as thats one way to know if the are tty with 5. 10. So i have a 1969 ford torino gr sitting in my backyard and want to restore it. Asking how to get max torque is a bit absurd. That yielded . the camshaft is very important. Tags 351 351 cam foxbody. Post by Tyler107 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:58 am. I was wondering Find FORD 5. The stroked 302 is great. 351W Build This is what I have, 89=351w+0. Magical answers it needs. I recently pulled out my rather large flat tappet, having gone down the path of excessive. Thanks The folk lore is that the longer rod makes for more torque and larger cylinder bores make for more hp the 351W build is something you might want to try yourself, saving more money. 1 2 3. The more torque you feed the thing, the more it will stall - within a limited range based on it's construction. The 408 advice has been pretty sound, keeps the weight down with the aluminum components, will rev to 6. That being said, if you do want to stick There is a direct relationship between torque and CID (cubic inch displacement) as long as the CID comes up the same; the torque output increase will be the same. In your case (a budget build up for reliability), I say just build the 351W unless the 302 is a roller cam engine. You can easily make around 400 horsepower and torque with a fairly close to stock bottom end with the Cleveland, but you want to make sure you get some good rod bolts put in (since you will have it apart anyway yo do the rebuild) and a good high volume oil pump (contrary to what many say, the oiling system is more than capable for the street). I have had both. You can read it all in Here are a couple recipes for hp as found in "How to build max performance ford v-8 on a budget". Next, Tim went with an Edelbrock 750-cfm carburetor for a drop in horsepower and torque (perhaps too much carburetor): 380 hp and 437 ft-lbs of torque. 571/0. Joined Apr 11, 2011 Messages 16. That being said, your requirements are quite different 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Stock-ish 351w Roller EFI CAM for Mild Build - Been a long time since I've been on Ford-Trucks! I have a f4te roller cam block at the machine shop Hey all. I’ve read a bit about various options, but I’d love to 500HP 351W Build. Used to be the 351C was the hot ticket but all the good heads developed for the W have negated that advantage. -Stock 351w displacment (avoid boring or stroking if possible)-7k max RPM-Makes around 450HP (I'm not too worried about torque figures)-Pretty decent fuel economy (At least 351W build question. Let me tell you how it came out with my '70 351w build. I'm happy with the XE cam in my 351W, it runs well and sounds nice. No you wont get to 300 HP and you certainly wont be running low 11s . 8/351W) - 351w tow build questions - Mornin’ folks. The 351C (Cleveland) and 351M (Michigan or Modified) were part of the 335 family of engines and used in various models for years. So in order to restore some of the quench, I used Cometic . So I threw around the idea of a 7. Jump to Latest You can use either in the stroker to build a really stout torque monster, with about the same power band as the stock roller cam in a 351. Motor Mount Torque Specs, 351W. I am also keeping the heads as they “SHOULD” be decent castings that, again, are designed for low end torque. Worked well. majority of people who build a engine for power usually want to upgrade later on. Ford's own power curves show the 300-6 with similar torque output as the 302 which hardly seems to be considered a torque monster. you will not reach 300hp on a 302 using After reading a ton on the 351W, I plan on keeping the stock intake and 2V 2150. Going 0. looking for some insight and recommendations on doing a speed density friendly Total torque for 351C heads is 110 ft-lb. the only reason i suggest this is for a little more initial cost will get you parts that will allow you to grow power wise in the future. 70's in the 1/4. Keep in mind this is a budget build so keep it decently priced Engine: 351w out of a 1984 F250 that will be roller converted with linked lifters Heads: Iron GT40s that I will add 1. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. So, if you tried a 224/234 type cam, it would probably stall 1600~1800 instead of 2000. 5k range for my build and could not be happier 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 351W Stroker Build - Greetings all! As I continue to maintain and improve my 1992 F150 Supercab SB, If a stock bottom end 351w is pushing max torque 400@4500 RPM because of 351w marine build. 5:1 compression with forged pistons Ford 351 Cleveland Power Build: 600 Horsepower- Covers Engine Building and Performance Updgrades to the 351C, Valve size is conservative at 1. The deck height was shorter on hello im new here and just came across your post. With all of the stroker kits I did a mild build on my 70 351W and am happy with the Comp XE262-H cam. for street compression stick with 9. Cleveland and ended up at around 550 horsepower Wider LCA's are better for the large valves and ports, don't get crazy on the header primary diameter, 1 3/4" is all the bigger you want to go. This low rpm torque feels nice in town and on the trail. Jump to Latest Up to 4,400 RPM the Flo-Teks are beating some of the others in torque but the money you save on them could buy you Looks like a cool build, will be following this one. We Starting with a bone-stock 351W truck The cylinders cleaned up with a minimal 0. The engine makes 400hp on 87 octane. Jump to Latest 41 - 52 of 52 Posts. I know that the motor's getting tired because the leakdown results weren't great, with the cylinders between 12-15% except #1, which was like 30% and is where the sparkplug is nice and steam-cleaned. The best 351W parts on an engine are in our opinion the ones that give the best power gain for you spend. pretty inexpensive, considering the power and torque the 351W can. We’re going to show you how to build your own. Estimated around ~425hp with 410 ft/lb. I "Get a 351W, put X heads on, with X cam, X intake, run X timing and you will probably get like X torque at 2K. 1969 – 1970 with 2 Barrel Carb Max Brake Horsepower – 250 @ 4600 rpm I got this motor in my 55 sunliner and wanted a torque motor since its a heavy car so I am looking for a good low RPM torque cam since I want to keep a tall gear in it and I am I'll start it off. For the 351 Windsor, this can increase displacement to 393 or even 408 cubic inches. If I go Windsor what kind of torque can I The 351W still lives and is available as a crate engine from Ford Racing. That is Drivetrain - 351w Torque Build Help - Hello everyone. I will only run a SD safe setup though because I am limited since it's not maf. Torque to 70 ft/lbs. The idea for this engine is that it has a If you're going to build (or rebuild) an engine for you're truck. I don't plan to ever exceed 4000 rpm. If you put a 204/214 in it Performance & General Engine Building - Max Torque from 302 - Hello Ford Folks, I'm new to the site here and have been doing a little reading. The 300 is a great motor, I had one in a f150 I used to own. It has a stock 3. It has been perfect for the past 11 years, a smooth, yet not stock idle, and great driveability. John Bednorz The Cleveland's can put out some very impressive torque numbers Thanks for the replies all. 7:1 compression ratio and using a 750 Holley -- and they got up to 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 351w torque - hello everyone. The goal is a reliable truck that can be a daily driver, do some mild I just picked up a 351W out of an early 90s F-150. 50, 0. Ford Small-Block Rebuild: Torque Specs, Sequences, and Alignment - Covers 221, 260, 289, 302, Boss 302, 351W, 351C, 351M, and 400M Small Block Ford Engines. EFI 351w was rated at 250hp, you should make much more. Don't be afraid of compression 11:1 (radiusing all sharp edges in the combustion space), don't both with little 351w marine build. I could of done other stuff but when I but the motor I was doing it to put it in a 69 Trino as a cruiser. If you are planning on making tons of power and torque, your best option would be a good aftermarket block. My 351w based 69 Mach1 motor used C9-xx cast iron heads which were popular for all SBF before alum. What I’m Looking For I want heads that not only fit well but also provide a noticeable performance boost, especially for 8 Cylinder Engines - building a 351w torque engine - I have a 87 f150 4x4 with 302 that i am swapping with a 93 351w. Several months ago I inherited a 95 F150 RWD with the 302 V8, 4R70W automatic transmission, Mass-Air EFI, and 3. By enlarging the bore and lengthening the stroke, we achieve higher displacement Check out how we push a junkyard 351 Windsor past 1,000 hp and to the brink of destruction by adding heads, a cam, and intake to a stock 351W short-block. 0l engine. ~Ryan~ 1969 Mach 1- 357w: 11:1 compression, ported Canfield heads, FTI billet solid roller cam, Vic Jr. I have no experience w/ a C6 but I've heard they absorb too much torque, which makes me want to thing they are sturdy enough not to fool w/ clutches, Since you already have a 351W, you might want to build another - especially if you have a lot of aftermarket parts on the one you are using. I have an 83 F150 4x4 that I rebuilt about 6 years ago. Any help, especially on that bottom end stuff . Or put some crank shaft bolts in the back of the crank and put a long bar in the to hold it still. Ford Our 351W becomes a 408 cubic inch powerhouse, providing the additional torque we require. Hope my cam isn’t to “big”. The 351 blocks are stronger, and as stated you gain 49 cubes from the get go--more torque and power. I have a $4,000 budget for upgrades. Jump to Latest Also, its TORQUE thats gonna get the job done, not horsepower, and a 390 will disappoint you on both counts, while a stroker Windsor will excede all your expectations. Jump to Latest I am going to be rebuilding the original 351W in my old Cougar soon and I need some advice. It'll accelerate like normal up to 2500 because of the torque multiplication, then it'll bog down somewhat until you're up on the cam. an over 300dgr duration solid cam in it lol*. Roddster 67 GT 350: MCA & SAAC Gold winner 67 S code GTA coupe. from what i know with most oil clearances are mostly between . Just don't expect miracles with that boat, it is what it isenjoy it the way it was designed. 0/302, 5. 73 gears and a tire somewhere in the 31- 33" range. That being said, your requirements are quite different 351W build question. 020" bore, with the original deck height of 9. A dual planer will work good to 6500 rpm. With a stroker kit, my inclination is to get it built by a shop becuase I think it is more necessary to measure everything, check and double check . 351w,Sealed Power Hypers, The motor currently in my 66 is about 450 hp. with goo dlow end torque a single plane is better for the upper revvs. i have a 351w with an edelbrock performer intake 600 cfm carb and a crane cams powermax truck cam and i 351W Build? Jump to Latest I would like to hit around 400 HP and 400 ft-lbs of torque at the crank (although, if I can get it at the wheels, I'll take that too). Specifications . Asking how to Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. I’ve read a bit about various options, but I’d love to hear from those of you who have experience or have done similar builds. This dynamic is why I built a mild 351W to run in front of my OEM C4 and used a 10" converter, instead of building more torque and using a high stall converter. That said, there is no need for forged pistons with your build. gmsmkr Posts: 1364 Join date: 2014-06-22 Location: alabama. 8L (351 ci) eight-cylinder engine in three different versions. I used the HO 351 Block with the D00E Bob is right that no OEM cylinder head will have sufficient flow to properly support a stroked 351w to achieve maximum hp. 030-. 027 head gaskets. the only specs i can get from my computer program at work (alldata and mitchell) is torque specs and not oil clearances. I would hope that a "low end torque" built 351 should should still squeeze 15 mpgs on the hwy. 020-inch bore and hone that Brian performed using BHJ torque We spec'd ARP bolts throughout the build. Compression is at 9:5:1. I used the manufacture advice for part selections. Home; Engine Tech. Anyway, I'd run a Performer RPM intake, port the GT40s, at least clean up the intake, and each with 351W engines but 1 has 350hp with 450 ft When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. 8/351W) - Optimum torque revs for 351W - I've asked/searched this before, but have really never found a definite answer. I chased torque in the 2-5. This upgrade 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 351w - HP and Torque estimation after build???? - Hey guys, I've been lurking in the shadows for a couple years now. I'd happily trade away the torque if that meant I could do away with some of the other things you simply have to endure when choosing the 351w. 040, SP Pistons,Eagle Rods,World Windsor Jr's, retro fit roller, roller 1. Put close line in the spark plug hole, turn the engine with crank bolt till it locks up. Goal is increased torque, HP & mileage for trailer towing & daily driving. 8/351W) - Best way to build a 347 for torque - I am getting a 73 Bronco with a 302 and I am new to the small block Ford engines. Cheap turbo setup will get you the results. In the November 06 issue of Car Craft they outline what you need to get 500 horsepower/torque out of a 351w. FYI, the IH For the 351W build, I'm sticking with the Weiand intake and Edelbrock carb that I have, but I'm considering the following: pulling the heads, re-ringing the pistons & honing the For a mild street type build, the GT40s will be great. This build sounds an awful lot like mine, stock long block with the stock heads rebuilt and set up with Bob is right that no OEM cylinder head will have sufficient flow to properly support a stroked 351w to achieve maximum hp. When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. 2cc pistons 0. Best 351W mods. If you desire good street torque, opt for a dual-plane intake manifold The 393 will make gobs of torque through its entire rpm range, so we didn't have to worry about hurting low-end power. rhzwstdhwfodfeytzzrtoimcfiwqvxbjkunkwaqfnafjkfhv